sir, your colleague republican congressman greg walden told the christian science monitor that we are looking at real reform that is done a piece at a time, step by step. my guess is that it comes later next year. in your opinion is a piecemeal approach the best way to go? should that be the only way that the house can go? >> it appears to be. look, let's, first of all, get one thing clear. democrats were in charge 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010 in the house of representatives. we never took the issue up. unfortunately now for our side, republicans are in charge and guess what, they're going to say how it is it's going to come about. here's the good thing. the good thing is they say they're going to do it. so if comprehensive immigration reform, thomas, you and i take any bill on comprehensive immigration. part is border security, the dream act, ag workers, future flows for the high tech industry and a pathway to legalization. so immigration reform is clearly -- you can clearly divide it up because there are different components that make up the package. look, as long as in the end none of th